Sources and citation

Again ANZAncestryTime twitterchat had our four questions but I am going to separate them with our answers.

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1. Do you cite your genealogy sources and why is it important to do so?

Karen: Much of the information I have found is in historical newspapers and documents such as electoral rolls, birth, marriage and death certificate transcriptions, and shipping records. I had little information to go on otherwise.

Helen: Of course! To provide evidence; so I can easily access/find the source again; to help others check my work and help with their research.

Michelle: Always. Although sometimes they are a rough entry in notes until I do them properly in my database.

Margaret: I try to on all my @WikiTreers profiles. Only exception is my mother’s research. If she has it and I can’t find it I use it

Helen: That’s a great recommendation. I have a family member’s research I can implicitly trust too. I love sharing my discoveries with her

Pauleen: The best kind of research geneabuddy…a serious, meticulous researcher

Helen: My wonderful older geneabuddy had access to the older generation I didn’t too, and she still has paper questionnaires from the 70s/80s she asked them to fill in about her family. GOLD!

Fran: How wonderful. Hopefully someone will digitise the images and also type up so they are not lost.

Brooke: and how do you write the citation for a questionnaire?

Helen: I’d include name of person answering, name of researcher, describe it as a genealogy questionnaire, private hands (in a publicly available document/blog)

Carmel: I record all sources in my genealogy database as I add the records. Add lots to Evernote too. All sources added to blog posts, Harvard style

Fran: I use my database also. I used to add more notes in Evernote but recently moved extras back to my database as notes or attachments so it can be found all in one place.

Maggie: Have learnt the hard way, and now am religious about keeping track of my sources – so I can go back and see what I found, how I found it, where I found it, and evaluate it against other sources.

Claire: I think we all have notes on pieces of papers that we have no idea where we found something!

Maggie: I think that’s when I switched to notebooks… at least the notes were all in one place. Still unsourced, but hey, better than loose scraps (and hopefully some context in there?).

Claire: I have my own referencing system for my offline tree. Online I sometimes add sources but generally don’t spend to much time on it, I don’t want to give all my work to commercials & I can produce the goods for genuine connections when asked.

Hilary: I have spent too much time redoing things because I didn’t do a good job of citation in the past so now it is the first priority. It is important to know where you found the information if some time later you find something that questions earlier research I found this problem just yesterday.

Pauleen: And to add insult to injury, the archives changes their cataloguing system and you have to “translate” the old citation into their new format.

Helen: Which is an ABSOLUTE disgrace! I’m an archivist and archivists should understand this! Don’t get me started!

Pauleen: And occasionally you find a person who can’t help make a transition you’re trying to track.

Helen: I am not going to ‘like’ this Pauleen! Where’s the ‘fuming’ icon?!

Sue: Did this in Tasmania but at least only added a 1 in the catalogue eg RGD37/46 became RGD37/1/46 – meaning first lot digitized I think

Brooke: I tend to copy the MLA citation for Trove articles because it is closest to UTas history citation style. It’s what you’re used to.

Jennifer: I’ve found many think that if it’s on the internet it’s free. I found a blog post I’d written about an ancestor on someone’s Ancestry account as if they wrote it. I asked them to take it down or add me as the source. They took it down after a while

Sue: having blogged with students since 2007, I quickly learnt about copyright with images and getting permission or else you get sued.

Pauleen: Even a copyright notice across the image doesn’t stop people using them. People in general are intransigent about copyright and don’t want to hear when you tell them they can’t.

Sharn: I find if I record my sources as I research it is less painstaking than doing it all at once.

Sue: when adding to profiles on trees, I include websources especially from Trove or the Tasmanian Names Index

Pauleen: When we get pressed for time when visiting a repository it’s all too easy to forget to properly document. Online catalogues can be helpful to overcome our omissions. I try to photograph the packet and my order slip before I start on the document. Thankful for the fact we’re now allowed to photograph. Once upon a time we had to get anything we wanted photocopied and sign a copyright disclaimer.

Maggie: I always photograph the order slips now, has saved my life many a time. And yes, always seem to be working at speed in archives

Sharn: As I research now I add my sources to a word document that I save to my computer and each topic has its own folder of sources I can return to.

Jennifer: This is what I’d like to do. I l wish I was as organised as you Sharn. I should make it a priority

Jennifer: I learnt in the early days of my research how important it was to cite sources when I couldn’t find something previously found in an archive. One day I’m going to go back to all those old early blog posts and find the source so that I can cite them. That’s the plan anyway, if I live long enough.

Pauleen: @legalgen has shown us the gold standard of citations in blogging, so we’ve started to learn from her example

Sharn: It is important to me to cite my sources as they establish evidence for my research. I also learn from other people’s citations

Pauleen: I agree. Following other’s citations in books etc can be useful wayfinders to future research opportunities.

Helen: Absolutely. I’m an avid footnote fan. I even own a book called The Footnote, by Anthony Grafton!

Pauleen: To footnote or to endnote, that is the question. I’ll have to look for that book.

Fran: Items I add to my main family tree I cite the sources. I need to as I cannot remember where I fond things. I do not always source blog posts as mine are usually quick and sweet little posts and not advanced pieces of research. If anyone asked I could refer to my main tree and see where I found the information.

Helen: Currently tutoring at tertiary level & correct citation is a huge part of their mark, effectively, because if the students don’t master citation, they fail their assignments!

Jennifer: It’s important to cite your sources so you or somebody else can find it again. It also gives credibility to the information and gives credit to other researchers or writers. Without citing sources you could be accused of plagiarism

Sue: when writing post on blog I link URL to images of words but don’t necessarily cite like in Chicago etc unless it is formal essay

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2. Where do you use citations? ie blogs, reports, trees?

Karen: I included a long reference list for a recent article for the Lane Cove Historical Society journal. I send links to articles to family members, e.g. Trove articles. Citations are also in my family tree. Haven’t written blogs yet. Maybe I should.

Michelle: in my database and any report I write. I haven’t got into blogging yet but one day… I’ve begun putting biographies on WikiTree and the citations sometimes lag behind the text until I can copy/paste but I find it easier to just write without stopping.

Pauleen: I can understand writing without stopping but even if you just put the footnote # in there and come back after finished writing it helps.

Sue: Always good to check the site you got info from for how they want something cited or footnoted

Helen: Good point Sue. Some of them are very clear about that. Some of them could do better!

Sharn: I use citations in my house histories. The footnotes are as long as the history sometimes

Pauleen: I used them extensively in my major ADLH assignment for Oxford, as it was about Irish migration and conditions which wasn’t their area of expertise.

Fran: Mostly 100% in my main tree has some source. I try not to add unless I have time to do a source. I do them for other work like any essays, reports, etc when studying as this is expected and part of the process.

Maggie: Reports, trees, blog posts (though sometimes those ones might be less formal). However, I do have a bit (okay, a lot) more work to do on ones in the earlier nooks and crannies of my main research tree in Reunion.

Pauleen: I don’t use citations in trees online because I don’t add my primary research to those. I also don’t add it to my genealogy database as I prefer a narrative format.

Helen: We are very similar but that said, for one particular branch of the family I have an online database where I add sources and annotate. Here’s an example: ancestry.helenmorgan.net/people/13-0020

Pauleen: I like how you’ve got the person’s life history summarised in a clear way.

Helen: Thanks. Lots more to do on this. None of them are ‘finished’ – I intend to include more of my narrative writing too.

Hilary: I have been waiting for new desktop software update so now trying to use to rebuild my database using good citations as has better sourcing capabilities

Jennifer: I cite my sources on everything I write. I often write & publish blog posts on my phone when away from home and when I don’t have the source at hand. I always go back and add it later

Sharn: If I am out I add a source in NOTES on my phone so I can find it again later

Hilary: I am very active on @WikiTreers and busy cleaning up profiles so much of my current citation work is online

Sue: If I want to use something from Tasmanian archives always send them a request and include URL of blog post it will be used in. Haven’t been refused yet.

Pauleen: That’s interesting because I’ve been told before that the archive doesn’t own copyright and I had to go to the relevant dept. A right nightmare! That was for my book.

Sharn: I use footnotes on my blog posts and I now add source on my online trees (I’ll add ie a FindmyPast source on an Ancestry tree) so that I know where I found things

Margaret: I use them in the biographies I write for my profiles on @WikiTreers. I add them to the people in my Legacy trees

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3. What referencing system or guides do you use or would like to use for citation?

Karen: EndNote. I generally use APA7th when citing.

Sophie: Great question! Agree with others that there’s a need to be a little flexible with choice of ref style according to where you’re publishing/writing…but Shown Mills’ book is certainly handy

Sophie: One of my go-to items is Zotero @zotero which has an awesome browser add-on that allows you to perform a one-click grab of referencing metadata from pages and articles you visit online. An essential tool!

Hilary: I use Evidence Explained if I can but I also have Referencing for Genealogists: Sources and Citation which is better for UK sourcing

Michelle: I tried EE but found it inconsistent. And the comma inside the title quotes is grammatical nonsense. Now I use my own system which is pretty much [where I found it] citing [where it comes from]. For books etc I use Harvard which I’ve used for years.

Fran: Would love to say some official system. Do have my Evidence Explained beside me. I find The Lazy Genealogist system most successful. I use free form in Reunion. I go for more than less. Copy archives citations, add notes, transcriptions, images, links, etc.

Sue: depends who i am writing for. essay at uni or article for magazine, i would do formal citing with footnotes and bibliography. but blog post often links if info found online

Jennifer: I’ll use a link in a blog post too Sue if I have one. Will put the correct source in my FH software

Hilary: If websites provide their own citations I will use them but sometimes I edit them if incomplete

Helen: I no longer follow a particular system, just include everything needed for a clear, honest citation that allows it to be found again

Brooke: I think that’s completely valid. Being able to re-find the source is the point of the exercise.

Carmel: Indeed, as long as one has Who, What, When , Where , Why and How – that’s the criteria I use for citations then make sure some consistency of order is added

Jennifer: I always refer to Evidence Explained (EE) when unsure. If I’m really unsure I just write it to make sense so somebody knows where to look for it after they read it.

Sharn: I prefer Harvard style citations but in terms of organising citations they are in files under topics researched on my computer. I need some software!

Pauleen: Unless I’m required to use a particular citation model, I tend to use the Australian Style Manual. The main thing is to get the details documented so the record can be found again

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4. How do you keep track of the sources you find or want to follow up? ie correspondence with relatives, downloads, photos

Brooke: How about naming files for digital sources? At a workshop, a historical fiction writer said that she simply names files according to what they mean to her, thinking of words she would use for searching, & let’s the computer’s search engine do the rest.

Jennifer: I like that idea. It keeps it simple. There’s really no need to overcomplicate as long as it can be followed. Different if it’s a source in a book or publication

ANZ: I am pedantic about my filenaming, use a standard convention so I can build my complete citation from it.

Brooke: Eureka moment! That’s a very smart way to go about it. Thank you.

Maggie: And don’t modify the original file, always edit a copy. That way the date of the file is the date you accessed/downloaded it.

Pauleen: Hadn’t thought to do that, good tip, thanks Maggie.

Pauleen: I remember once, at work, being told that file where you first think of a location as it’s likely that’s where you’ll look next time. Makes sense I think

Fran: For work I use names I would think of searching for next time I want it. Similar for family history though I start with a unique number so that once I find one piece I just search the number and find all related pieces.

Fran: A number for an item plus words for things like source, what it is, names and dates – sometimes shorthand. Eg a birth certificate, a will, a page from a census though this might have two pages if the family covers two pages. 0600-GRO-Death-Cert-Frances-Ann-Shepherd-DOD-1946.png

Helen: I would do this for some – very frustrating that with VIC BDM certs they provide them unmeaningfully as Cert_190923-2021 rather than before image_DeathCertificate_CAHILL_Michael_1863 – so I rename those. Otherwise I rely on filing by subject/context

Pauleen: I keep a running file of records I want to follow up in the archives or library and another for my infinite wishful “to do” list. I found my archives list very useful when I’d suddenly find myself in Brisbane from Darwin.

Michelle: I use a genealogy-specific gmail address and file all emails into folders by name.

Michelle: I have 4 colour-coded manila folders by grandparent surname where stuff for scanning goes till I deal with it. Same on computer for digital stuff. When I’m working on that line I go through it and process them

Karen: I have photos and documents stored in folders on my computer/Cloud and hard drives. Many have been sent via email, so I can often find them quickly through email searches.

Pauleen: Does anyone else ever feel like they’re drowning in a tsunami of data, sources, emails, photos etc etc? I’m finding it very overwhelming with my decades of “stuff”.

Fran: I can understand this better after seeing your book today. What a pile of work that would have been!! I suspect you need to prioritise and work on that first. Some might have to be left undone.

Pauleen: I was exceptionally organised when I was writing the book but now I’m retired I’ve moved into CBB (can’t be bothered) mode about far too much.

Maggie: ‘m not great at this bit – I need a correspondence log! Downloaded files are no problem, as I use a filenaming convention, but I need to sort out a proper system for photos.

Hilary: I have so much organising to do but not sure when it will be done as lockdown did not inspire me to do it. When I am filing downloaded images I am trying to stick with the original name just adding to the appropriately named folder

Sharn: It bothers me that I haven’t organised my email correspondence. I have a wealth of information in them. I record every source I find that is useful in word documents under the topic. I just add to those when I find more. I index them to keep track of what I have. I hate losing sources

Jennifer: I really dislike research logs. I just put where I researched and the results on the ancestor file in FH software

Fran: Big fail happening with keeping track on want to follow up. When I am tidying up pile of what looks like scrap I will find a page printed with a little note: check at XYZ place.

Pauleen: I’ve been retrieving old emails (some) and sending them to Evernote too. I’ve also copied the email chain for ones I’ve had lots of correspondence with and put them into a file.

Carmel: in email keep all genie correspondence in one folder, in gmail, tag with surname labels, also send to Evernote email with surname tag

Jennifer: I use the notes section in my family tree software to record sources that need follow up. I try to record all sources with a person on the tree. That’s my intention but I’m not always that organised. I’m very proud to see I scanned every one of my documents and photos in lockdown last year. Took all year. Was so happy when it was done

Want to practice your writing and citation skills?

Great quotes:

Jennifer: Thanks everyone for the really informative discussion on sources. I’m relieved to hear that I’m not the only one who isn’t perfect all the time. I did think it was only me

Penny: What is this you say – The Lazy Genealogist system? Is there such a thing?

Readers: Do you include sources and citations when writing blog posts, reports or on your trees?

Family history and social media

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ANZAncestryTime this week was looking at the use of social media for family history.

1. Which format(s) of social media do you use in your #familyhistory research and communication?

Most participants use Facebook, Twitter and blogging. Some use LinkedIn and others Instagram and Pinterest. But all agree networking is important to keep up with webinars and seminars and general genealogical information. A new group similar to Facebook is Ancestorian – see link below.

Fran: The main ones I can share things I find and my own research via sharing blog links. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Pinterest. Each has a different use. Also use messenger a lot for discussions, chat, etc

Pauleen: when I question the time I spend on FB it’s because it’s my go-to place to discover new info these days or clues about places or, for example, DNA.

ANZ: Facebook groups can be very helpful resources. Especially those with photos of ancestral places

Caitie: I’m part of so many genealogy groups on Facebook for learning – DNA based, locality based – family groups for sharing etc. I love Twitter chats when I am free to participate!

Jane: I have used Facebook in the past but am using ancestorian.com more and more

Carmel: forgot to mention Flickr for sharing family albums and Google photos for the same. Email – for elderly rellies and society members some of who are frightened of FB

Karen: Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. I have found a lot of incredibly useful information on Twitter, through feeds such as: @TroveAustralia @nlagovau @slqld @statelibrarynsw @naagovau

Caitie: I forgot to mention YT!! Those who know, know I did genealogy videos back in 2014-2015 ish. I have many ideas for videos and should get back to it but you know, time.

Alex: I am probably using that increasingly and think that we should use it more as a Society. We’ve posted some good stuff lately. youtube.com/channel/UC043s…

Sue: I created a video and put on YouTube about how to use a blog for your family history when helping with Intro at UTAS Diploma youtu.be/5JnZzpYrLxY

Shauna: I only use YouTube for learning about genealogy resources – must try doing some videos. I liked @caitieamanda when she was doing them- sigh another thing on the to do list

Maggie: I’m loving Twitter at the moment, to keep up to date and to interact with other family historians. FB has been good for niche interests, but I’m not as active on there. WhatsApp for family/colleague chat. I don’t like it much, give me a decent mailing list anyday, but that’s where some friends and fam hang out, so gotta go where they are

Liz: I use Twitter, Facebook and email lists and forums mainly but also have a small blog with the names I research and starting to write small articles about some of my ancestors

Sue: Used to use rootsweb and rootschat but now use the io group – member of a Tas Convict group and Tas general group

Carmel: Deleted LinkedIn account when I retired in a digital clean up. Now try to not take out too many new subscriptions, need to limit Social media time compared to real time

Claire: Facebook business page, my own blog (cbgenealogy.ie), newsletter approx monthly. I use Twitter for general chat & also @boards for our genealogy forum for longer queries there

Hilary: I use Discord for interacting with others on WikiTree with common interests a more immediate way of interacting

Helen: Another source that has been helpful for me is the ‘Knitting Genealogists’ group within @ravelry – incredibly helpful if you are a ravelry user!

Alex: ooh I did not know this. (Goes off to join group on Ravelry). I’m bookluvvie on Ravelry.

Helen: knitsontrains – not that I do that anymore! Not so much for Aus stuff (I could reciprocate if folks were interested) but other ravelers have been very generous looking up stuff in Canadian newspapers for me!

Margaret: I’m on a lot of the DNA matching Facebook groups – but have not had much luck in making connections.

WCH: Social media was focused on just Twitter for a long time, as I didn’t want to deal with potential racism on Facebook. The Facebook page I eventually set up gets less interesting interaction than the Twitter account, generally. I just started using LinkedIn.

Pauleen: I was just debating whether blogging is social media or not. Personally I’d include it because the comments and interactions are what built up my genea-network. I also draw lots of people interested in a person or topic. For me that makes it “social”.

Alex: I think Instagram is very visual so have only participated in photo memes. I am contemplating recording interviews for our Society because I think that might get more takeup on Insta.

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2. Which social media do you prefer for your own family history? Why?

Again Facebook got the highest amount of positive comments.

Karen: Twitter – can reach out to like-minded researchers. Facebook – longer posts Instagram – can be good for telling stories. E.g. Am thinking of doing some ANZAC Day posts this year about soldiers in my extended family who died in the wars.

Shauna: for my own genealogy I have a database and I have been downsizing my binders to a Word text document with scanned images. I think this will be more useful than heavy binders going forward.

Helen: Twitter for me so far (thanks @MsFrugalone!) but this may show my age – my students have told me they get answers to EVERYTHING on Reddit! Haven’t checked it out for family history though

Alex: I think ALIA (Librarians Professional Association) uses Discord for Trivia competitions 🙂 Perhaps we could have Trivia for Genealogists on Discord 🙂

Sue: When doing the Diploma of Family History UTAS in 2014 I started private Facebook groups when each subject began, I still run those groups

Alex: and I thank you from the bottom of my heart dear Sue. They were so valuable and important in terms of keeping me on track and abreast of glitches or hiccups.

Sharn: Alex I learned more about how to do things via those social media UTAS groups than from the Uni. They were amazing!

Alex: yes we set up a Facebook group for graduates from our Beginners course at QFHS so they could keep in touch and keep learning together. They were also invaluable doing the UTAS course.

Greg: Greg posting under Ancestorian account. I used Facebook a LOT but found many groups impersonal, often with admins who bordered on outright abusive. I didn’t like how Facebook takes control over how groups operate. Never saw how to use Pinterest or Insta.

Alex: hmmm. I think it’s Blogger for me because I just love the ability to record research. I like the interaction on blogs as well. I’ve been burned on Twitter (not this group obviously) and Facebook can be all consuming. Not being able to search it is a pain.

Caitie: Facebook and blogging. It reaches more people and is in a friendlier format for those I’m sharing directly with like my family.

Dara: I love Facebook groups and pages for following local history, so many old pics and stories shared, even found some of my dad and granda.

Sue: Definitely blog and Facebook which I actually started when I went travelling around USA Canada so a way of family knowing how and where I was

Fiona: Facebook Messenger group as its a great way to share news and get discussion going on images and family stories. It’s more direct rather than a page or group page that can get lost in a feed. For a wider family group a fb group works.

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3. Which social media do you prefer for family history societies or groups? Why?

Linda: recently heard of a new website called Ancestorian, think of Facebook but for genealogists/researchers only, has loads of different groups, have joined many groups but rarely used it as yet

Jane: ancestorian.com works really well for groups. … built just for family history (doesn’t collect and sell your data like some other sm sites do). Lots of groups already and any member can start a new group if their particular interest isn’t covered.

Carmel: FB for societies but must admit it annoys me that a refresh of personal page, as often happens when one navigates away to follow a link, loses the order in which one was reading hence often need to search for a post again from a group or society

Fran: I prefer Facebook Groups for the society members only, where I’m the social media person. A Facebook page for general society sharing of our own and others content.

Sue: if a society has a facebook group with lots of members then when it comes time for membership payment, just putting a notice on there about how to pay easily will build members

Karen: Many of the “new” cousins I have met have shared images and stories that I had no idea about. While this has mostly been done via email, FB groups have also been helpful. However, I love the library and archival feeds on Twitter! Have learnt SO much.

Fran: I use @feedly to find material to share online that hopefully is useful to society members and family historians

Sharn: I definitely prefer Facebook for Societies and Groups because I can visit and catch up more easily than on Twitter. But Twitter chats are great for learning especially #HouseHistoryHr and #ANZAncestryTime and #AncestryHour

Sue: I’m a member of Sorell Historical Society FB group and often mention what I am going to write about in my @OnePlaceStudies and get ideas from members including images

Alex: I think most of our demographic are flat out getting on Facebook let alone any of the other social media platforms.There’s a healthy disrespect for social media. I do think people need to be digitally literate i.e. understand where info is from.

Caitie: Very true! My mum joined Facebook for a month and couldn’t understand it but she loves Twitter & has her own twitter account. She will probably see this tweet 🤣

Pauleen: Which I suppose shows we need to share our info on different platforms if we want yo maximise the impact.

Pauleen: And to understand privacy settings. I check out how tightly people control that and only accept people I know in person or who I’ve followed in genealogy for a long time. It’s great for keeping international connections too.

Fran: I find Facebook messenger groups are great. You can have a real conversation with a select bunch. It’s easy to go back and check out previous discussions as it is not in a pile of other non related posts.

Hilary: I use Google Group and Discord for interacting with groups on @wikitree as well as their forum

Linda:  I prefer Facebook Groups, I’m in numerous one’s for surnames, places, English Counties, DNA, and just general groups for queries, would like to use Twitter more for genealogy but don’t find it as user friendly as a Facebook group, Instagram I don’t use at all

Fiona: I keep up with many groups via their blogs or fb pages as they give timely info. But like Greg (@ancestorian) I don’t like how you have little control over what is picked for you fb feed.

Pauleen: We have an ANZ FB group for fans of local and family history blogs and another for the bloggers to get advice or swap notes. Very handy to meet new bloggers and promote our own blog posts. Do you share yours in a private FB group Tara?

Fran: Groups are great that you can restrict membership to people. Great advantage for families and societies or topics that you wish to focus on.

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4. Can you recommend any tech apps or techniques to manage your social media?

Fiona: No social media before lunchtime.

Fran: I love apps that integrate. For example I use Co-Schedule, @buffer or @hootsuite to post on most of my work, society and personal social media posts. I like being able to schedule. Integrate with my apple products, WordPress blog, IFTTT and more.

Paul: Bit late to the party but I use the app buffer for scheduling tweets and posts it’s a great tool

Karen: While I do not like the way Adobe does business (e.g. huge fees for cancelling a monthly subscription), I do like their Adobe Spark software which can be used to create posts with the right specs for different social media sites.

Sue: I used to use flipboard to collate great posts from students in the blogging challenge I ran worldwide from 2007 – 2017

Carmel: Used IFTTT and Zapier for a while but really don’t post enough to bother with them.

Tara: Excellent reminder that Tweetdeck is a great way to keep on top of Twitter feeds.

Alex: I inherited an amazing Excel calendar from the former Facebook coordinator at QFHS. I spend about a morning once a month scheduling posts for our events. The rest I do ad hoc from browsing. But I probably need to use something like Loomly.

Shauna: I like TweetDeck for Twitter as I can see multiple streams at the same time. Using hashtags is also very useful for bringing information together

Caitie: This is what I need help with. I don’t really have a posting schedule either so to speak. If I think of something to share, I just share it.

Wellington Chinese History (WCH): I use Google calendar for important events and dates, and zapier.com “zaps” to automatically send out tweets and post to Facebook and LinkedIn.

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Blog posts:

Fiona: creating a Feedly account to collate posts you want to read

General comments:

Sharn: I’m grateful that Social Media and Zoom have allowed me to stay in touch with and meet new people!

Helen: Was disappointed when they killed the forums on @TroveAustralia & the ability to contact other members. When you were able to work out who might have textcorrected/tagged things of interest you could contact them. I had a great family connection success this way

ANZ: Sometimes we have to restrict notifications so we manage social media, not the other way round.

Readers: What social media do you prefer for your family history? Why and how?

Sharing your family history

Our 4th twitter chat was on the topic of sharing your family history. Remember to visit our website to check out the whole chat or use the #ANZAncestryTime on twitter.

Again we had questions to guide our thoughts and comments. These chats are always fast paced and as well as comments to the questions there are replies to these comments so lots to take in over a one hour period.

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Question 1 – What audience are you targeting to share your family history? What methods are you using?

  • Pauleen: I share my #familyhistory to share the stories with others and maybe give clues for research, leave a breadcrumb trail for family and others. I share my #familyhistory to record my research process to reflect on in the future. It’s a working diary. I have written one #FamilyHistory and published it and have a couple of drafts on others. My blog is a great magnet for connecting with others.
  • Sharn: The intended audience for my public family history tree is anyone researching the same families. My blogs reach a wider public audience. I hope I am also leaving a record of the family history and stories for my children.  My audience is an important aspect of my family history blogs. Blogs have the potential to reach people with new information to fill in gaps in my knowledge. Because my blogs are public I cite my sources as accurately as possible. I am recording oral family history stories. I use Audacity to edit the recordings and I transcribe them into a private family blog. Some of this information might end up in my public blogs where appropriate. I have three public blogs intended for a general audience and one private which is just for family to read.
  • Carmel: Family, always family the target, have a blog and have used the blog stories in a small book. Also have an online tree which has elicited a couple of queries from distant relative. Have my tree on MyHeritage and gradually adding only direct ancestors to wikitree and FamilySearch – none of them were in either place.
  • Fran: The main audience I target is unknown cousins via Ancestry DNA and my tree at @Ancestry. I attach the ancestry sources to my tree so that it is useful to other researchers. I find my Ancestry tree is useful with the DNA connection. I am sure since I started adding lots of the @Ancestry sources I get more queries.
  • Jane: Family and DNA matches – Sharing facilitates collaboration.
  • Sue (me): I’m writing my family history mainly for me, but if I write a post about a close relatives ancestor then I will contact them to read the post. My blog is for telling stories and research. My trees on Ancestry, My Heritage etc are to make DNA connections with unknown cousins, also direct them to particular posts on the blog they might be interested in.
  • Hilary: I target anyone who might be a descendant of an ancestor or sibling of an ancestor which is why I am on free to access websites. I am finding I get most contacts using @WikiTreers but also #FamilySearchFamilyTree. I also have blogs for family stories and research methodology and discussion. I link to blogs I have written from WikiTree so anyone interested can follow the link.
  • Shane: I have a blog that’s not used much and some good Facebook pages. People I connect with are DNA connections – that are quite close and are keen genies.
  • Jennifer: The research on my blog is a work in progress and often prompts on the direction to take next. When I blog I’m mainly trying to connect with distant family members. I find the blog is a great way to reach out to them.
  • Seonaid: My audience for my family history is my family . . . We have a private Facebook group to share updates . . . new family members find us. I also have a public tree on Ancestry as cousin bait. My blog was another good way of sharing, but its “resting”.
  • Kylie:  I am targeting cousins through my blog and Facebook page.
  • Maggie: I try and target distant family members, to see what stories we can share. I should really blog more! My dad published a book last year on our family history (I helped with a little of the research), and it’s amazing how many people have been in touch after hearing about it or reading it. It’s also useful to go over what you’ve done – sometimes it’s not till I blog about my research that I see a gap, or trip over something I missed the first time.
  • Shauna: I use my blog to record answer stories but I am also doing draft family histories which I can PDF and put on my website as a permanent record.
  • Liz: I am currently targeting my mother and uncle as the audience for a biography of their mother which is being compiled in a written format, hopefully with photos. I anticipate a “second ed” for wider family audience when they give me feedback and info not included. My project will be about 20 pages in total and is aimed to be a Christmas present. Has been a lockdown project for me most weekends.
  • Melissa: I don’t have children, so I see my family history research as my contribution to our legacy! I mostly just share stories with interested family members, & use social media as cousin bait.
  • Dara: I share my #FamilyHistory on my blog, to share my research with known family, and to attract new cousins. I also appreciate the interaction with the #Genealogy#Blogging community. My blog is also a kind of research journal for myself.
  • Sandra: I share my family with family, close and distant. Trees on online and hope to collate everything in a book.
  • Dara: I changed my Ancestry tree to private when a pro-genealogist sold my research to a cousin. I use Ancestry for research, with some tentative relationships added,. I have a Direct Ancestor tree for DNA matches, so I don’t see all the CommonAncestor hints.
  • Brooke: I try to write a good enough story that my audience is anyone interested in historical non-fiction and family history (including my own family). I’m starting to put them on my website.
  • Margaret: I write for anyone who comes after me by adding to WikiTree & FamilySearch.
  • Liz: I have had family heirlooms passed down to me by my Mother and MIL including a ring which is another great way to tangibly share family stories.
  • Judy: On Ancestry I have a private tree (called Ask-Me-For-More-Info) linked to my DNA, & a direct-ancestors-only public tree. I also have a partial tree on MyHeritage & Findmypast & FamilyTreeDNA etc. I’ll soon put a corrected & greatly expanded tree online elsewhere.
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Question 2 – What collaborations, photos, meetups etc have come from sharing?

The Sorell historical society have a Facebook page which has lots of sharing of photos and stories from people around the world not just the Sorell municipality – Sue

I’m always amazed by the people who contact me via my #familyhistory blog or via knowing what my research interests are – Pauleen

I’ve met up with many distant cousins through sharing my family history. We have been able to share research info and photos – Jennifer

My father’s Newfoundland cousins found us on Facebook, and have added photos of family members for us, the local church and village. We shared photos of us & our English family. Two English cousins visited Newfoundland village & cousins – Seonaid

A man in the UK found a trunk of his father’s records mentioning my g uncle which supported the suspicion he was a spy in WW2. The man’s notes indicated sabotage of aircraft being repaired by my g uncle’s company – Sharn

I have met cousins through @WikiTreers and we have got together we enjoy collaborating – Hilary

It relies on some keen people from different families but working through the local family history society would be the starting point I think – Shane

I found a cousin (distanced) who had the family bible of my GGG grandmother from Ireland. When I visited I took photos and was allowed to hold it. Quite moving and definitely worth contacting collateral lines. Who knows what is out there? – Shauna

Just last week I was connected with a cousin through the Toowoomba society who know my #Kunkelfamily interest. She has filled a gap that I hadn’t been able to close in my tree! Yay for connections! – Pauleen

I’ve run a few family reunions back in the 80s and 90s, mostly done on paper for family members to add info on, then I put on database on my home computer. Last reunion I took computer with me to print out family descendant charts etc – Sue

I use to blog on Hunting Ancestors, I wrote about how Uncle George died at sea during WWII. A researcher found it, sent me a photo of the vessel my Uncle died on. The crew list was written on the back, in the crew’s own handwriting – Seonaid

A new DNA match had their own website so we could share what we both had me in England he in Australia – Hilary

I’ve met the family who inherited the land from my Co Clare ancestors, and cousin descendants of my 2xgreat grandmother’s siblings in Ireland and kin in Australia – Pauleen

A blog I wrote was found by a diver who had discovered the wreck of my g uncle’s super yacht Warrior in the English Channel. he sent me a small piece of the yacht and photos of the wreck. Sadly Alan died diving on the wreck – Sharn

Through my blog and my website I was contacted by someone who also matched me with DNA – she sent through photos of my GG grandmother’s sisters. They all looked alike. Wonderful connection – Shauna

I have had a bible and photographs of family from strangers from having information online – Hilary

Had a number of gatherings through sharing photos and information on a Facebook group. Unfortunately, that group was taken down by the person who started it – Sandra

A blog I wrote about my Irish g g grandmother reached family in Ireland I did not know who had seen her name in her grandfather’s will but not known who she was. We exchanged information and swapped photos and family documents story – Sharn

Found a distant cousin on a FB local group for the Welsh town where my 2xGGs lived… She had PHOTOS!! – Melissa

I’ve found when I’ve blogged about my DNA some of my Ancestry DNA connections have contacted me and we have ongoing collaboration – Jennifer

My six siblings shared photos I didn’t know existed once they started reading my blog – guess I hadn’t previously asked the right questions – Carmel

It is important to cite your sources as accurately in public blogs. The National Library of Australia archives family history blogs on their Pandora site. One of my convict blogs is in the NSW Education curriculum for primary students – Sharn

Meeting cousins but also #localhistorians can also make a big difference to your research discoveries – Pauleen

We have a semi-regular cousins meetup for one side of the family, and I’ve have had family bibles, photos and stories shared from connecting through my blog posts – Maggie

Too numerous to mention, but I’ve received lots of photos of great-grandaunts and uncles, In return, I provide research on their family lines. We’ve few surviving photos on my branch to share. I’ve met up with about half-dozen previously unknown cousins – Dara

Have also had photos from a cousin who had a whole album to share complete with details on a spreadsheet – Carmel

I share mostly with the UTAS Alumni group – and I just started the Strathclyde Masters course so should be some new contacts there (about 9 Aussies doing the course at some level) – Shane

I managed to make contact with “lost” cousins in Australia and New Zealand (and USA). Through them I’ve learned missing parts of the family story but they’ve also shared photos including one of my GGgrandfather. None survive in Ireland – Tara

It was fascinating to see how they’d preserved memory of “place”. New Zealand cousins, for example, named their dairy herd after the Irish townland they’d left more than 100 years earlier – Tara

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Question 3 – Sharing of sensitive information – guidelines, problems, feedback

  • Jennifer: I don’t blog about the living either stories or photos without their permission. If info is publicly available it’s probably ok to share but I still don’t share it if there are living close family connections.
  • Fran: I try not to share information online that I think might be upsetting to some person. However with DNA matches people do find out things they might not have known previously.
  • Sharn: I do not share sensitive information that concerns living people or their immediate descendants. If it happened back the 1800’s I might share it depending on its nature.
  • Seonaid: Sharing depends on who & what you are sharing. Some people believe the stories they believe and you can’t change their minds. We should check whether our families want to know everything – good or bad. Be sensitive around illegitimacies or other “scandals”.
  • Pauleen: For me this question has to be addressed within the context of a timeframe. And what is “sensitive”? If it’s in the public domain eg an “early” birth then it may be sensitive but doesn’t have to be hidden. Are close family members still alive? There are some things I wouldn’t share while close elderly family members are alive. I don’t think it’s up to us to bust open family secrets eg adoptions, scandals etc when the people most closely involved are alive. Record but not disclose.
  • Shauna: Never thought after 40 years of research that this would be a problem – a DNA test revealed that Dad’s biological father was not Granddad – I have talked about the impact on me and I have traced his biological family – I have made no attempt to contact them.
  • Maggie: I don’t blog about the living, unless it’s about genie conferences. I tend to err on the side of caution when sharing sensitive information.
  • Sue: My dad is my problem child with bigamous father, illegitimate mother, half cousins etc so always ask first if he wants anything published on the blog.
  • Melissa: I think the American NSG has some excellent guidelines re: sensitive info sharing.
  • Sharn: Know the PRIVACY LAWS where you live and how they relate to sharing sensitive information. Privacy law relates only to living people. I try to present sensitive information about the past in a thoughtful but accurate manner.
  • Hilary: I think it is important to record the truth if it is different to the record but not disclose it publicly.
  • Kylie: I’ve made mistakes in my zeal to find and share info so now I try to share a brief outline or hint to something and offer more info privately.
  • Liz: I do have a number of examples of sensitive info I have unearthed in my family history. I do not make it public online. I have shared it with other family researchers who I know are genuine, interested and respectful.
  • Shauna: DNA is a game changer and we should always make sure that people may be aware of potential surprises.
  • Melissa: I’m very conscious of the fact that there are things my mother & her generation might not want shared, due to differing values. It’s a dilemma, ‘coz I also think my own values are right.
  • Sandra: I don’t share sensitive information online. Maybe sometimes with family who I trust. So far I’ve only told my siblings who our dad’s father was.
  • Dara: I’m very careful to only blog about things that won’t cause upset. Genealogy is my hobby – for fun – I want it to be fun for everyone who comes across it. I never name the living. If anything is controversial, I only blog about it if their grandkids are dead.
  • Pauleen: Treating our ancestors with the same respect and non-salacious attitude as we’d hope for is important. Privacy legislation is critical.
  • Sharn: We cannot rewrite history and we all have skeletons in our family closets but I believe family historians have an obligation to tell the stories about the PAST truthfully. Discretion and privacy is needed if living people are affected.
  • Fiona: Not online. If writing a family history share a draft with descendants before publication so they can give feedback on their part of the book first.
  • Pauleen: To comply with privacy legislation I got every living family member to sign off on their entry in the book. No signature, no entry..they got three notices. Some weren’t happy but c’est la vie.
  • Brooke: When I figured out who my “new” 75yo aunt’s father was, I drafted a very sensitive letter to his daughter. Then I got impatient & simply cold-called her in UK. Thank goodness she didn’t hang up. She’d known for over 50 years she had a sister. I reunited them.
  • Sue: Knowing about copyright with your blog and other online social media -a great post by a current teacher but applies to us all
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Question 4 – Brainstorm some of the ways we could share our family history

I am on an excellent FB page but its focused on a locality (Tarana NSW) which allows lots of families to contribute rather than page for each family – Shane

I have also compiled small heritage scrapbooks with photos (not originals), journaling and decoration which are great for sharing with all ages and a fun manageable way to share family stories – Liz

Digitally scrapbooked books to share with family – Fiona

Other ways to share family history is giving talks to community groups. I have spoken about my research on a plane crash on my grandparents property in WW2 – Liz

Sharing more trees in different places online. Social media – like Pinterest, Facebook Groups for families. Tools to make sharing more eye catching Animoto & Canva for making images – Fran

Has anyone produced a family history newsletter or organised a family reunion? These are ways to share family history. I also write an annual Christmas Letter and sometimes reveal interesting stories uncovered that year – Liz

Blogs, online trees, giving talks to local societies or at conferences – I am always amazed when someone comes up and says you mentioned my person or place – talk about your ancestors whenever you can – Shauna

Christmas present booklets, crafts, scrapbooking, make video or audio recordings of family stories – Kylie

Simple family group sheets are a simple way to share family history research or gedcoms for serious researchers you want to collaborate with – Liz

One day I would like to write a book. But for now, I barely have time to do my own research. I don’t have enough time to blog. I guess its the old saying about the mechanic and their car, or the builder and their own house – Seonaid

I’ve done a variety of things: little photo books of ancestors for the grandkids and bigger one they take when the topic comes up at school – Pauleen

Scrapbooks can be collaborative, get kids to contribute jokes, art work etc b/c it can be about the new babies and current family members as well as our ancestors – Liz

Write Family History Blogs, publish Family Histories, Print Family trees for family members, share family history in a family Facebook group, create a family Website – Sharn

I gave my mother a pedigree tree for her birthday, and have since had requests from other family members for their own copy! Looks lovely framed, and pretty easy to do – Melissa

I enjoy preparing presentations for talks – sometimes gives me the opportunity to research my own family to use as case studies. Justifies using work time, I’m often too tired when I get home from work, too busy at weekends. Looking forward to retirement 🙂 – Seonaid

My friend Crissouli writes poetry about her recent family’s history -very evocative. Others I’ve seen write up an ancestor’s diary (oh we can wish!) – Pauleen

I printed out our family tree for my son. Then joined it all together and pinned it on the curtain. It has become a real talking point when family come to visit – Sandra

Presentations, blogs, displays, gifts for family of personalised family trees – Fiona

Someone shared an old autograph book on YouTube by showing the pages as different people read out the messages, poems, etc. A beautiful way to share the words of our ancestors – Brooke

Create Family History ‘Tours’ using Google Earth. Plot locations and add stories, photos and documents to share a visual story with family – Sharn

Do not overlook the importance of digitising photos and records as these can be easily shared with others – Liz

I’m doing NaNoWriMo this year with the goal of writing up my notes on my first settler ancestors in NZ. 70,000 words is doable… I hope – Melissa

I’ve found one advantage of being self isolated due to covid is pretending to be retired and having time for research and writing – Jennifer

Always try to include and interesting graphic or photo in blog posts, use Canva, Photofunia and Photomapo apps – Carmel

Always enjoy preparing presentations where one can include family findings as examples, never know who may be in the audience – Carmel

Create a family history recipe book with family recipes, (or ones from the relevant time frame) anecdotes and photos relating to ancestors to share with family members – Sharn

Found one sad life from scanning the old photo album. One photo confirmed my great aunt’s marriage. That ended up badly and she died in an asylum. All found in Trove – Margaret

I like to put the relationship between myself & the main subject of my blog post at the end of the post – Brooke

Sharing stories using Adobe Spark to add photos and narration – Hilary

I have found that hooking my computer up to a big TV is successful. Nothing prepared so we jump all over the place as people ask about their ancestors. They always ask if I will do it next time I visit – Fran

I put together #PlanToPublish this year to encourage sharing of family history and to get it out of computers and shared with our families – Fiona

When my grandkids visit I show them the heritage items they are going to inherit and explain their significance. I just hope it sinks in. I really need to do a heritage items photo book with notes – Pauleen

Another possibility is to use the A to Z blogging theme each year to put them together – a family story booklet or a recipe booklet – Pauleen

Have shared folders in Google Drive for different branches of family where I put all the documents and photos – they don’t have delete access! – Carmel

Your descendants need to know your story as well record it whilst you can – Hilary

I think video is way to go. Not sure if anyone saw that MOOC “WW1: A History in 100 Stories” it told a lot of stories with just few slides – very simple and direct – Shane

Post stories in your personal Facebook account, interview rellies at short notice and record on the phone, collect family recipes, advertise your research interests, post photos to @Flickr or a slide show to @YouTube – Liz

When people were still excited about Zoom meetings (!) I put a powerpoint about #My8Great grandparents together for my siblings. Captive audience in lockdown – Brooke

I share my research on two global trees. I email cousins and send them records. I’ve helped 3 people find birth fathers. I’m breaking down brick walls by DNA matching – Margaret

I talked to my aunts/uncles as 2 grands were gone and the other 2 too far away. Now Mum and Dad’s generation are all gone, and my younger cousins are slowly finding me to tell them their stories. Compiling from my blog to make a PDF book to share – Sir Leprechaun Rabbit (SLR)

If doing things with your grandkids here are some apps to use – Photography, video making, other video making options- Sue (once a teacher, always a teacher)

 

Blogs of #ANZAncestryTime members

Sharn – FamilyHistory4U

Pauleen – Family History across the seas

Brooke – Brooke Wooldridge

Sophie – The Parchment Rustler

Shane – 1808-1884 – From New England to the Riverina

Did you take part in last weeks Gravetales geneameme organized by Carmel? Here are some posts published by Carmel, Pauleen and Fran.

Tools to help share the family history

Carmel has written a post about some of the tools below.

Audacity for recording stories, can be used on most platforms, has a manual to help with problems

Clanview website – publish your family history online to be viewed online in 3D

Animoto – great for video making, the Learn area has tutorials, blogs, help section

Canva – great for poster type info eg annotated maps, includes tutorials and help

Photofunia – edit and add features to your photos

Photomapo – using your photos and maps

PicCollage – add lots of photos in the one collage, great when travelling

Adobe Sparkcreate graphics, webpages and videos easily

Readers: How do you share your family history? Public or private, only family or open to the world?